Scared of Losing Friends? Then Why? - Part 2

When I got back to my skype after coffee, there was still some minor chat about how I should behave on the stupid ChildishStupid Forum.

I can see that he is really scared, he went to one of the threads that we hang out at and went back through all the posts we made so far, which is pretty rare that he does so. Surprisingly, he ain't that stupid for a change. Managed to sniff out that FF1 is more than just Final Fantasy One, nearly let the cat out of the bag there.

[4:34:24 PM] FatOne says: you like to read the piano thread also?
[4:34:33 PM] WN says: Read liao
[4:34:43 PM] FatOne says: and why must one register at FF1?
[4:35:19 PM] WN says: ?
[4:35:40 PM] FatOne says: :)
[4:35:51 PM] FatOne says: so what is FF?
[4:36:21 PM] WN says: Final Fantasy
[4:36:27 PM] WN says: FF11 is a online MMORPG
[4:36:30 PM] WN says: U play?
[4:36:51 PM] FatOne says: not FF11...
[4:36:51 PM] FatOne says: FF1
[4:37:17 PM] WN says: FF1 I dunno liao
[4:37:21 PM] WN says: Only FF11 was online
[4:37:27 PM] WN says: FF12 supposed to also, heng they didn't
[4:38:03 PM] FatOne says: nah... you don't want to tell me?
[4:38:24 PM] WN says: I dunnoe
[4:38:28 PM] WN says: I only know ff11 must register
[4:38:33 PM] WN says: cos monthly need to pay
[4:39:08 PM] FatOne says: http://forums.childishstupid.org/showpost.php?p=2858899&postcount=530
[4:39:18 PM] WN says: I cannot see
[4:39:22 PM] WN says: I must take super long to load, remember?
[4:39:38 PM] FatOne says: this is your reply to FF1.
[4:39:55 PM] FatOne says: Asking KO to register at FF1.
[4:40:00 PM] FatOne says: so what is FF1?
[4:40:39 PM] FatOne says: if you don't wish to tell me, just say so. Acting ignorance will only cause backfire.
[4:40:42 PM] WN says: did I say that? hmmm
[4:41:28 PM] FatOne says: it is stuppose to be a website or thread... I is not born yesterday.
[4:41:47 PM] WN says: I dunnoe, I cannot remember liao
[4:41:52 PM] WN says: Maybe I was drunk when I typed that
[4:42:44 PM] FatOne says: lame answer...
[4:42:57 PM] FatOne says: hard to believe you are drunk during office hr
[4:43:30 PM] WN says: Oooo... it was during office hour
[4:43:46 PM] WN says: Then I cannot remember liao m must go back read the thread then I can grasp
[4:43:54 PM] FatOne says: ok.
[4:45:33 PM] WN says: I is old liao :(
[4:45:45 PM] WN says: Say things say already also forget what I talking about.. Haiz. :(

Like you can see, almost lost it there. Phew.

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You might want to refer to "Friends are an investment" blog post to follow this section.

[4:46:11 PM] FatOne says: I need mutual trust. Do we still have that?
[4:46:47 PM] WN says: The way you question me and talk to me, you ask yourself, do you still trust me
[4:47:05 PM] WN says: If you think not, then I also nothing to say.
[4:47:18 PM] WN says: As far as I'm concerned, You haven't hurt me bad or anything, so the things will remain as is
[4:47:34 PM] WN says: My advice still valid to you regardless you like to hear it or not
[4:47:44 PM] WN says: "Friends are more important than money"
[4:47:52 PM] FatOne says: Yes. agreed.
[4:47:54 PM] WN says: If you persist... I will still sit on fence.
[4:48:02 PM] WN says: Period.
[4:48:03 PM] FatOne says: I do not need to spend money to buy friends.
[4:48:25 PM] WN says: Good to hear that.
[4:48:30 PM] WN says: Keep it that way.
[4:48:40 PM] FatOne says: Frankly speaking, you guys got nothing worth for me to invest... there is no ROI.

Wow, first he claims he treats all those that attend NUG as an investment, now he says we got nothing worth to be invested in.

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I thought he said everybody at NUG is a sort of investment, that includes friends who drop by right? So now it's not contradicting that it's not investing in us but "buying my friends a drink"?

[4:49:15 PM] WN says: Yep, agree. That's why I also don't really want to ask you to buy stuff back for me from HK. Cos you don't charge me additional for it.
[4:49:15 PM] FatOne says: All this while I buy drinks on the house at NUG is not investing in you guys... but buying my friends a drink.
[4:49:50 PM] FatOne says: And I always get some small token back for my friend.
[4:50:03 PM] FatOne says: that's why it hurt me when you return me back those books.
[4:50:29 PM] WN says: You ask for the books, so i returned lor.
[4:50:32 PM] FatOne says: I ask for books... only the DSLR and a wedding book that I pass you sometime back...
[4:50:38 PM] WN says: i still got the lucky cat and the nikon towel LOL
[4:50:55 PM] FatOne says: not the Nikon books I got specially for you.
[4:51:12 PM] WN says: i dunnoe, u say books so I dig up all the books somemore I saw your thread
[4:51:20 PM] WN says: thought you wanted those nikon books to be loaned around, so return lor
[4:51:51 PM] FatOne says: I already specially extra of those books I got for you to supply for that thread.

Now he is apparently worried thinking that I'm doing the "return all to you since we no longer friends" act. If so, why persist in this tomfoolery!!! Stop wasting your youth FatOne!

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Still he defends himself saying that we don't understand him, mistaken him. Was there any mention of friendship generousity in the "Friends are an investment" skype message with the CuteOne?

Trying to clean up the mess now?

[4:52:00 PM] FatOne says: that is an investment thread.
[4:52:24 PM] WN says: I dunno, I thot you wanted those books cos it look so similar
[4:52:29 PM] WN says: Keke...
[4:52:55 PM] FatOne says: you ppl mistaken me... it is you guys who cannot understand the difference between investment and friendship generousity.
[4:53:28 PM] WN says: Hmm...
[4:54:23 PM] FatOne says: just like CuteOne, I told her specifically that I'll pay for my sister and J's phantom of the opera tickets. but as I do not know GadGitz that well, I say I cannot sponsor GadGitz. But she yesterday transfered back everything to me...
[4:54:39 PM] WN says: some gifts cannot be accepted
[4:54:42 PM] WN says: some gifts can
[4:54:51 PM] WN says: Even if me I also will return u the tix money.
[4:55:13 PM] FatOne says: nope... you are returning me a friendship.
[4:55:33 PM] FatOne says: like J, I asked him to keep the money as he needs that more than I do.
[4:55:45 PM] WN says: CuteOne is not the $ face kind, got free one will grab mah you know her well also
[4:55:52 PM] FatOne says: you can return... but in another kind.
[4:57:13 PM] FatOne says: neither is J... he wanted to watch but he says to ex to get 1st class seats... but I insist on 1st class. so I say I'll pay the difference,
[4:57:28 PM] FatOne says: but when he wants to return me, I actually ask him to keep it.
[4:57:31 PM] FatOne says: that's me...
[4:57:37 PM] WN says: Aww... so sweet :D
[4:57:43 PM] FatOne says: I am not investing in J and I don't need to.
[4:57:59 PM] FatOne says: personally what kind of ROI i can get if to invest in J???
[4:58:06 PM] FatOne says: it is stupid right?
[4:58:14 PM] WN says: Beef!! Kobe!
[4:58:18 PM] WN says: :D
[4:58:29 PM] FatOne says: or same qns... what kind of ROI I cen get from CuteOne or you?
[4:58:49 PM] FatOne says: So I would be consider stupid to invest in you and CuteOne right?
[4:59:10 PM] WN says: You want me to bend over!
[4:59:49 PM] FatOne says: that's y I say you ppl thinks too highly of yourself. I am a businessman... I know abt ROI. And I would not want to invest in you or CuteOne or GadGitz or KO.
[5:00:04 PM] WN says: :O
[5:00:09 PM] WN says: I not worth anything :(
[5:00:20 PM] FatOne says: yup you worth $0 ROI.
[5:00:25 PM] FatOne says: Not worth investing.
[5:00:46 PM] WN says: Orhh... :(
[5:01:06 PM] FatOne says: But you always deserves my friendship generousity like dinner, drinks, small gifts, etc.
[5:01:19 PM] WN says: wu gong bu shou ru leh
[5:01:33 PM] WN says: wait later shou chong ruo jing

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So now, a hint that I didn't do my part as a friend to return the favors? I should have listened to KO and not touch the FatOne's liquor earlier, ok, so now I'm indebted, I'll open up the amount I drank (estimated) and more and return the liquor.

I've stopped drinking his liquor since 2 weeks ago anyway...


[5:01:47 PM] FatOne says: you are always welcome to buy me dinner, drinks, small gifts.
[5:02:00 PM] FatOne says: but you have not. :(
[5:02:11 PM] WN says: Last friday and sunday I opened 2 bottles of Black
[5:02:13 PM] WN says: but you not around :(
[5:02:20 PM] FatOne says: but I never pending on that either.
[5:02:29 PM] FatOne says: I might be there tonight...
[5:02:37 PM] FatOne says: wow 2 bottles?
[5:02:45 PM] FatOne says: there is an expiry date though.
[5:02:49 PM] WN says: Yeah, last week drink quite heavy
[5:02:57 PM] WN says: I open where got put my name
[5:03:01 PM] WN says: I put KO's name
[5:03:17 PM] FatOne says: why not my name?
[5:03:28 PM] WN says: Can also
[5:03:33 PM] FatOne says: good. :)
[5:03:40 PM] WN says: let me know when u finishing, cos I don't want the bottle to expire
[5:03:41 PM] FatOne says: but don't black...
[5:03:52 PM] FatOne says: personally I don't like black...
[5:04:04 PM] FatOne says: Jimbean will be good enough.
[5:04:25 PM] FatOne says: if really want johny walker, then the green or blue label.
[5:04:32 PM] FatOne says: not red or black. :)
[5:04:48 PM] FatOne says: jack daniels I also keen... :)
[5:04:57 PM] FatOne says: or simple, baileys. :)
[5:05:56 PM] WN says: Okie
[5:06:05 PM] FatOne says: now you understand?
[5:06:08 PM] WN says: I think I will open 1 bottle of JB and Baileys for u
[5:06:20 PM] FatOne says: no need. I still got...
[5:06:26 PM] FatOne says: next time bah.
[5:06:33 PM] FatOne says: cos got expiry date.
[5:06:39 PM] WN says: Okie
[5:06:41 PM] WN says: No problem
[5:06:47 PM] FatOne says: now they implement the bottle card...
[5:06:56 PM] FatOne says: to keep track on expiry date.
[5:07:14 PM] FatOne says: and Q now, if your bottle expire, you need to pay for the mixer.
[5:07:18 PM] WN says: can't be bothered, we normally finish before expiry anyway,KO has no expiry.. heehee
[5:07:24 PM] FatOne says: think their business no good.
[5:07:30 PM] WN says: all along mixers aren't free
[5:07:41 PM] FatOne says: not exactly...
[5:07:56 PM] FatOne says: I have not been paying for mixer in Q and T5.
[5:08:06 PM] WN says: cos you kicked off with KO around
[5:08:22 PM] WN says: same for me
[5:08:33 PM] FatOne says: last week when I go Q to finish my jimbeam, it expire 4days only, they ask me that if I don't waht to pay for mixer, open another bottle.
[5:08:49 PM] WN says: Q we no longer open bottle liao
[5:08:53 PM] FatOne says: they are getting strict now.
[5:08:55 PM] WN says: We only have bottles @ CH and T5
[5:09:04 PM] FatOne says: I still got another jimbean there.
[5:09:34 PM] WN says: Okie
[5:10:09 PM] FatOne says: so you gets it?
[5:10:18 PM] FatOne says: NUG is an investment for me...
[5:10:33 PM] WN says: Yeah I know
[5:10:36 PM] WN says: You say a lot of times liao
[5:10:52 PM] FatOne says: ppl go there including you guys, and I still buys drinks serves 3 major purposes:
[5:12:24 PM] FatOne says: 1. Customers who bought things from me so why can't me give them a drink.
2. Friends like yourself and CuteOne, why can't me give them a drink?
3. I use Spinelli cafe to earn $, why can I give them back some business?
[5:13:06 PM] FatOne says: If you trace back, I often buys drinks on the house is when I got collection... that's where I can gives maximum exposure.
[5:14:10 PM] FatOne says: although sometimes I still buys on the house is because you disturb me, so because you are my friend, and I'll honour my friend's decision, I pay for the drinks.
[5:14:11 PM] FatOne says: get it?
[5:16:53 PM] FatOne says: I am not stupid... although I do know that you guys thinks it is unnecessary for me and it is stupid of me... but I insist as you dun know my intentions.
[5:17:17 PM] FatOne says: And definitely I AM NOT BUYING FRIENDS!!!
[5:17:25 PM] FatOne says: I dun need to also.
[5:18:46 PM] FatOne says: anyway enough said.
[5:19:17 PM] FatOne says: Like I say, no mutual trust between 2 persons, then there is no friendship involve in the first place.
[5:20:59 PM] FatOne says: Do let me know if you decided not to trust me anymore. Likewise I'll do that. At least I believe the past relationship between both of us deserved that much of respect. right?
[5:23:08 PM] WN says: Hmm?
[5:23:53 PM] WN says: Me never think so much, and what is past is past

Went around the bush, flogging a dead horse, if my joke of asking for a drink/chips was not necessary and caused obligation, apologies to the FatOne on that, well, you could let me know earlier, I do have a Spinelli's card myself, and I certainly can well afford my own coffee/chips. I'll buy you as many as I can back when I have the opportunity to do so. I cannot afford to owe people favors regardless obligated and/or not.

Now this is intriguing, why talk about all these now? Fear of losing friends? Or you finally cherish and know that what you said is wrong, but earlier as mentioned - what you say, you stand by it so now trying to salvage the situation without making yourself look bad? Is this an attempt to salvage? If it is, you've failed terribly.

Words are like the wind, they come and go, you feel it once, then it's gone forever, things will change, leaves will drop, dust will travel.

*Haiz.*